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And nothing of value was lost.

This right here is why it’s so VERY important to read things before accepting what is presented as the unblemished truth. 🍻

Sorry, were you quoting someone? I can’t see that anywhere else… but perhaps I missed it.

I’ve had this discussion quite a bit, and it’s tough to break the 77 cents on the dollar and whatnot rhetoric, because those people are convinced that a man and a woman doing the same job with equal experience, the woman just automatically makes on average 23% less than a man. And it’s easy to prove that wrong, and entirely misses the point.

With the pervasiveness of social media, outrage culture, and, frankly, the steadily increasing difficulty to finding credible sources of information… it’s just far too easy to just revert to our baser “tribalistic” tendencies and blame someone and get mad. Toss into the mix the fact that a lot of these topics are sensitive issues and boy howdy EVERYTHING is a powderkeg and ONLY black and white despite evidence to the contrary.

[…] Now, I imagine a lot has changed in 23 years, so maybe that mentality has changed, but if all else is fixed and there is a “pay gap” based on choice like that… that’s not a problem that needs to be solved.

Agreed on this point. Different strokes for different folks.

So to recap, we need to stop talking about cents on the dollar and start talking about making rejoining the workforce more available and appealing after having babies, and giving dads more time with their kids to let their wives work.

I’d really like to see a world where it’d be possible for both parents to get leave, be able to work part time while not being put in a financially dire situation, and still have access to crucial things like affordable healthcare and insurance. A pipedream - without question… but one can hope.

This was my thought. It could be done with reinforced materials and then have a wood veneer or facade placed over it… but if someone was going to actually do that - they’d definitely have finished the buildings before assembly.

Don’t be caught being evil…

People downvoting seem to have forgotten this unpopular opinions.

Whoa whoa whoa… are you suggesting the white wealthy guy from South Africa, who clearly favors fascist ideals, supports Nazis, has access to a social platform AND an AI chatbot … is doing something as crazy as trying to brainwash … dupe … influence other people into hating and fearing other groups of people?!

Say it ain’t so.

Science

…Although at the rate we are going it may well be referred to as such in the stories told about “the before times” as people huddle around the fire.

As I recall there have been a number of studies done on this… and they fall into the “technically true” if you looked specifically at gender within a given work pool and discounted all other factors then this is the answer you arrive at.

Unfortunately, every single one of these that I have personally read … all suffered from the fact that other factors play a part in that somewhat disingenuous number. If roles are factored in - these numbers begin to fall apart. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread: women have maternity leave… and following that can look to exit the workforce or move to part time. Compensation can be different between these categories. Continuing down this path: in a household that is dual income - it has been traditional to see the woman leave the workforce for child rearing opposed to the man. So looking at a given workforce, specifically at a given role in that group may still have a disparity in experience and time in the position (and thus compensation.) Lastly there is the bane of all - starting compensation negotiations. It is my understanding that generally men are more aggressive / assertive during this phase in the hiring process.

In short: this is stupidly difficult to generate fair and correct numbers for this type of metric and RARELY does it behoove the party running that inquiry to get the details right. The more accurate the results: the less sensational the number. Now to be clear: I do believe that there are cases where there are unfair practices taking place - but they are the exception… not the rule.

At the end of the day - if we made it commonplace to be acceptable to discuss compensation… And put some more workers rights laws into place… We’d have a system where everyone could have a fair shake in a job, equally.

I’d be happy to be proven wrong with some numbers that have actually factored in these variables. With regard to OPs statement: that number looks strikingly familiar to one horrifyingly old and incorrectly run survey.

Share an ice cold one with a friend!

Land Before Time 28 is looking kinda weak guys.

I can’t say I like the particular use of words there 😅

I’ve got some bad news.

Funny how that works. ;)

Nintendo isn’t just the nestle of companies to users… they are the same or worse to their own.

I’ve seen people lose teams over errant comments about a novel idea for the IP they would love to see happen, or maybe even be developing as a passion project, purged for the notion that they were anything more than drones.

It’s a disgusting work culture taking advantage of bright eyed developers that grew up with fond memories of the brand. I genuinely love some of the IP and worlds made by the developers - but I will never, ever, spend a fucking penny on that company until it is changed.

mmmm banana bombs, holy hand grenades, and those cursed shopping levels * shudder *