I have a theory that they understand this is wrong, but also feel the social pressure (ads work this way, remember), and thus decide to go all way in, in the most absurd ways, fully, to suppress their feeling of doing a stupid thing.

OK, not a theory, rather my experience with starting to use an Android phone

What is the absofuckingworstly scariest thing about this is that I’ve personally read quite a few sci-fi books, like in half of them, like in any universe, such things were usually a Trojan horse by the threat of the week to exterminate the good guys, or at least Palpatine’s way of spying, or whatever.

OK, Palpatine’s coolest microphone was decorative trees with skin changing colors depending on vibrations, and a very complex system of restoring the sounds from image, if I remember that correctly, in one X-Wing book.

So how the hell does it happen that such things are presented in movies and books and series like a threat, and yet people buy them?

I can believe in people loving touchscreens because touchscreens were unfortunately popularized in Star Trek and even, sigh, Star Wars prequels, and everything sci-fi.

But this is something that was being recommended against in such media for decades.

At some point I could allow that Proudhon can be right in that quote, in something accordingly built.

Then I realized that property is unavoidable, even not in our current specific sense, any resource attachment to a consumer is property.

Sides in which should be responsible for their actions, for a society to be self-regulating in any way.

And only a human can be responsible, a real human, not a construct like a group or a company. And responsibility can’t be passed on.

Initially I thought this is right-wing thought, until I also realized that, 1) today’s financial mechanisms can’t exist with these rules, they involve plenty of responsibility sharing and shifting, 2) the right-left arguments remaining after adopting these rules are limited to the status of gifts and inheritance, as in - can you possibly inherit what another person, even your parent, made, and can one gift a property without the tail of responsibility, which would be all of their personal responsibilities.

I guess the typical marxist idea of separation of personal and private property (the former is fine, the latter is not) is in practice good enough to be combined with these for some clear set of rules. The border is arbitrary (just like dividing people into classes and calling some instruments means of production and some not), but so is every border.

Anyway, what I meant was that you referred to authority. You could have quoted an explanation why everyone should be armed, instead you quoted a direction.

It’s funny how everyone has a sacred quote in support of their own beliefs.

Reminds me of those jokingly exaggerated portrayals of Muslims arguing on something, where in one place in Quran the prophet said this, and in another place the prophet said that, and such a renowned theologist interpreted the confusion thus, and another one a different way.

Everything humans make turns into a religion. Asimov got it backwards, that the Foundation could use their advantage in knowledge as a religion for barbarians, but IRL the Foundation itself wouldn’t be able to control it all becoming religion.

I mean, OK, the Foundation evolved there, and their practices backfiring on them were one of the reasons, something had to be changed. I hope real life analogues have some plans for that.

I like that vision of future (implants are cool, neural interfaces can be useful), but I’d also like our world to stop and think a bit at every stage.

Solve the global network (note how I’m not saying “global computer network”, because I don’t think so, ideally we’d still have global analog commutated channel network as the base level), web of hypertext documents, universal applications and personal computing problems sufficiently well first. Then go to brain implants.

It’s like combat drones, using them with optical cables for communication is better than with radio, turns out. That’s the current way.

Would be good if for computing we’d figure out ways better than war to remove delusions.

I mean, easily catching fire is a thing since German tanks in WWII, so yes.

Well. Imagine we’re talking 1920s, Trotsky, plants and steamers and autarky.

In this paradigm having plants able to assemble something is necessary. Even if on dotations.

Because you need plants that can be repurposed to, I dunno, assemble lots of FPV drones or something.

Also iPhones and such are too complex, but something useful they might be able to produce in the USA.

With more automation wouldn’t it possibly cost less than this? On Taiwan the balance between automation and human labor is due to their costs of labor and automation.

In any case more expensive than on Taiwan, though.

If US cost of labor drops sharply due to a few bubbles exploding, or a few nukes explode somewhere causing harm to world economy, then having such plants already in place might be retrospectively considered a wise decision.

Consumer hardware is now being used in wars on scale, changing all balances. So I think everybody is going to do what Trump is doing. Keep complex processes inside if they have the knowledge and ability, and try to gain knowledge and ability if they don’t.

I don’t think it’s bad. Socialists will finally see a situation which their ideology fits best. Industrial specialties, even worker-level ones, teach people to think in a way making idiotic websites in some modern framework doesn’t.

All that, of course, is sometime after the hellish hell we’re going to see making us work to achieve it.

It’s full self-driving, doesn’t need roads. Put into wrong car.

Where I live plastic straws are still everywhere.

Nickname checks out ; I think I’ve read it can be dangerous if you ingest it in specific situations, but mostly not.

Agreed.

I think there was for KDE (there’s almost everything for KDE).

Do they have a Tcl/Tk runtime in Apple-land?

I suppose that would solve the lack of many applications, by writing scripts good enough.

Found that no, but there are browser ones, so - sort of a variant.

I mean … there are, I think, organisms that can process plastic. Not talking about biodegradable plastics, but about all that garbage.

At the same time humans got rid of lead paint and lead everywhere. And uranium glass is more rarely used today.

Everything changes, so maybe we will rotate to something instead of plastics, and the future generations will be nostalgic over good old days of that vintage non-woke solid serious plastic world.

The order of the words in the title implies Windows 95 is more culturally important than Brian Eno.

Anyway, Infected Mushroom’s one is better.

Tired of arguing in the interwebs.

It’s hard to accept your part in such, especially with something else to blame.

There’s such a thing as cultural context. Beethoven is not known as the EU anthem composer, and Eno is not known as the Windows 95 sound composer. It’s weird to refer to them this way.

Lemmy could be a Gemini service. Geminispace has such a social network. I wonder if one could make a Lemmy frontend for Gemini, working similarly.

Purely webpages as documents that would be, a curious Jedi find out may.

It’s fallen out of favor simultaneously with reduced competitiveness, I think these are connected. That’s why there’s no money in making normal websites. The potentially competitive by usability niche is taken by platforms.

I guess trying to make generative music hasn’t been among your interests. Brian Eno is a huge part of all modern interesting music.

It was competing on a market, despite already owning most of it.

People could use something like GEM instead of Windows 3.11 and the likes, and a lot of people still did. There were other alternative application shells on top of DOS.

I think it was a nice ecosystem, actually. Having the most simple and basic and clearly understood base, like DOS, and plenty of addons above it. Probably some multiuser and virtual memory features would still be good, but.

It’s not about systems, it’s about usage. Say, if we had NT with a text shell like such a “DOS”, and above it plenty of different competing subsystems, not just Windows, with the interface clearly standardized, maybe Windows world wouldn’t be such shit.

And I think many people even working in Microsoft saw its future like that or better than what we have.

So the moment MS kinda won, they started openly rotting.

I’m still of an opinion that private aircraft is for sports and for farmers and for doctors\firefighters\rescuers in remote areas like rural Siberia. And, of course, for people wiping their ass with money.

It’s unfortunately not the same as having a spaceship in some sci-fi universe. The word “ship” hints why, the legal infrastructure, the expenses and most of all required qualifications make flying a plane more demanding.

I don’t see how making a weird car-like plane changes that.