Not a dude, please don’t “bro” me

Here is another helpful link, on citizen perception of the importance of democracy and whether their government is democratic.

It was founded by a former NATO secretary so it has a pro-western bias.

https://allianceofdemocracies.org/democracy-perception-index

Here is a chart sourced from its its 2024 report. As you can see Chinese people have more faith in democracy and the democratic nature of their government than westerners do.

The whole brainwashing thing is nonsense, as Cowbee pointed out you misread the data on the 11 percent. It seems like you are misreading data to support your preconceived notions.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/

China is a democracy, even studies by conservative western institutions show Chinese people have higher satisfaction with their government, more belief in the importance of democracy, and more belief in the democratic nature of their government than western European and American citizens do for their own governments.

They have a more comprehensive democracy too. Consultative processes and deliberative processes are enshrined in institutions in a way that they are not within western bourgeois democracies.

For me it isn’t really worth thinking about unfalsifiable things? If you’re looking for guidance, community, and inclusion, go join a socialist org or a queer community center?

I thought the US killed millions, not 100,000s?

Dear God, are you claiming that the proof for the three things I asked for proof for can only be found at this specific archive? Thay doesn’t even make sense, how is proof of widespread government violence in order to prevent reunification found there? How is proof of extensive nuremburg-esque trials post-reunificstion found there?

Seems like the soviet government was more responsive than contemporary western governments, but not as much as east Germany: https://artsmatter.blogs.bristol.ac.uk/2025/01/28/trans-visibility-in-the-late-soviet-union/#%3A~%3Atext=First%2C+they+became+visible%2C+at%2Crecognized+as+ordinary+Soviet+citizens.

Okay so you are claiming that there is proof but we would have to go to Berlin to find proof? In the age where internet archives exist?

If neither of us are willing to physically go there than why did you cite it as a source to support your claims?

Cool than you’d be able to share things from the archives that meet those specified criterion?

Please link me to sources then.

“Whataboutism” being considered a logical fallacy was made up by an Irish Unionist (as in supporting Ireland being a British colony) because he didn’t like it when people responded to “the irish resistance is violent” with “the British are magnitudes more violent and their violence wouldn’t stop if the violent resistance stopped”

Consider understanding the historical context of a line of argumentation before using it.

Wow, that sounds horrible, I bet there were a lot of prosecutions of the people who carried those things out once the government reunified!

Oh, and the physical evidence and documentation of those torture dungeons after the wall fell, there must be so much evidence of all the horrors committed!

And all the violence the evil communist government must have done to keep itself in power and prevent reunification must have been really evident, I bet we can find newspaper clippings and even video on the widespread violence that happened in an effort to hold on to power.

Wait, I’m getting reports that none of those things actually happened, fuck. It would have lined up so nicely with the narrative taught to me by American education and popular media, that’s a real bummer.

As labor is further socialized (basically centralizing and then running itself without capitalist intervention) you end up having labor done by men and women and women still being responsible for more domestic duties which are labor but not considered labor(because those being done for free subsidizes capitalist profit) the solution though isn’t to keep women in the household, it is to do socialism, where domestic labor can be socialized (it isn’t under capitalism because why would you socialize labor you’re already getting for free?)

Yeah, and no fault divorce keeps the workforce happier and reduces domestic violence (meaning less injured and killed workers), abortion on demand makes it easier for people to continue working, and socializing former domestic labor improves the efficiency of that work and frees up labor for leisure or other labor, but those things are still good and part of the socialist feminist project.

I shouldn’t have to arm myself with a deadly weapon to avoid being raped, and doing so significantly increases my chances of being killed.

Why don’t you go advise men not to rape instead of telling women how not to get raped? Statistically, some of your male friends and family are rapists or will be.

Also killing people -especially up close like that- is really traumatic no matter how much of a tough guy persona you put on. As someone who has PTSD from sexual violence, I would not press a button that would go back in time and let me shoot my attacker while he was on top of me as he started to escalate, entirely removed from the inherent value of human life argument.

I cannot stress enough how incredibly performatively callous and how out of touch with the experiences of women and the reality of killing this meme is. Get a fucking grip.

Cowbee already answered your question but I’d like to point out that as a German you really need to be careful about what propaganda you believe about the Soviet Union and Stalin. Keep in mind that Germans killed 26 million soviet citizens less than a hundred years ago.

Oh look holocaust trivialization

I dont know when but within the context of conversations it was before they left China

I’ve talked to Chinese foreign exchange students who learned about it in school

I love it when people call a transitional economy state capitalist because it betrays a lack of understanding of actually existing capitalism and the role the state plays in it.

NYT is a very conservative newspaper, they are only “woke” in the very shallowest sense when convenient to them.